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#1 datsunfreak

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 09:58 AM

Back a few years ago there was a 510 wagon on the Sydney Datsun Club website that had an S13 180SX rear suspension swap done to it. I can't seem to find it online now, and was hoping someone knew where I might be able to find any info on the car? Or if anyone saved the photos from the article that covered it? :tongue:

Very interested in seeing how it was done as I'm contemplating IRS in my wagon and I'm unsure whether I should go with 510 IRS bits or S13 IRS bits.

Any leads greatly appreciated. :thumbsup:
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 10:54 AM

I think Graeme might know a thing or 2 about this car...
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:42 AM

I think Graeme might know a thing or 2 about this car...



He should... :tongue:

How do I find him?
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 11:46 AM

S13 IRS is a better option by FAR. PM 'Graeme' on here, he pioneered it. His car had fantastic handling and ride with that setup. Pretty sure he (being the purist he is :tongue: ) even managed to make it bolt in using the original mounts with minimal, if any new holes in the precious wagon metal.

Alternatively, I think Graeme's old wagon might be for sale at the moment. Why not buy it and help restore the 510 equilibrium upset by Shawn and his rampant LHD US 510 buying spree? ;)

If you do choose to go 510 sedan type IRS, have a look at what Dr Datto Adam did to his wagon. The whole 510 sedan rear floorpan and shock towers into a wagon - very clever!

BTW John, being a Texan, are you into this movement? Video - US students swap bibles for porn - The Sydney Morning Herald :ninja:
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 12:02 PM

S13 IRS is a better option by FAR John. PM 'Graeme' on here, he pioneered it. His car had fantastic handling and ride with that setup. Pretty sure he (being the purist he is :tongue: ) even managed to make it bolt in using the original mounts with minimal, if any new holes in the precious wagon metal.


That's what I want. See below.

Alternatively, I think Graeme's old wagon might be for sale at the moment. Why not buy it and help restore the 510 equilibrium upset by Shawn and his rampant LHD US 510 buying spree? ;)


Well, if the price is right... :tongue:

If you do choose to go 510 sedan type IRS, have a look at what Dr Datto Adam did to his wagon. The whole 510 sedan rear floorpan and shock towers into a wagon - very clever!


There are two reasons I don't love this plan, one lame one justified.

Lame = I don't want to sacrifice a lot of storage room. That's part of the reason I bought a wagon. :teehee:

Justified = I reeeeally don't want to alter the car's body quite that much.
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 12:14 PM

Sent him a PM. I hope he's still around. :sweat: :sweat:
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 09:12 PM

Yes, I'm still here.....
I will have to dig pretty deep to see if I still have any quality photos of the set-up. If I find them I'll post them up.
I do remember that I only had to drill about 5 holes in the "c" channel directly under the cargo area floor.
The front of the cradle was made to bolt through the cars front spring mounting area.
the S13 cradle was narrowed 200mm (to suit the 15x7 10mm offset wheels I started with)
Shocks were koni that were originally used on a Jag rear end although there are other short coil overs that would suit better now.
the axles were shortend to suit also.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 09:39 AM

Yes, I'm still here.....
I will have to dig pretty deep to see if I still have any quality photos of the set-up. If I find them I'll post them up.


Good on ya, mate. :thumbsup:

I do remember that I only had to drill about 5 holes in the "c" channel directly under the cargo area floor.


Something showing that would be super. And if there's a pic anywhere of the top half of the cradle, that would help too.

The front of the cradle was made to bolt through the cars front spring mounting area.


That explains a lot. Hard to tell what's done there in the one pic I have.

the S13 cradle was narrowed 200mm (to suit the 15x7 10mm offset wheels I started with)


So it wasn't necessary to go to a +40 wheel? I thought that's what I heard way back when. All your sectioning needs to be in the middle of the cradle correct? So shortening the cradle, cutting off the stock cradle mounts and making new ones, and shortening the shafts is basically it?

Shocks were koni that were originally used on a Jag rear end although there are other short coil overs that would suit better now.


Yeah, I was thinking about these:
http://www.speedwaym...Overs,7706.html

Ride height adjustable and spring rates from 200 to 500 pounds.

Did you mount the coil-overs in a different spot that the stock shock? That's how it appears. New boxed rail for those? Or linked to the stock boxed rail?
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Posted 30 March 2010 - 10:48 AM

Yes, I'm still here.....
I will have to dig pretty deep to see if I still have any quality photos of the set-up. If I find them I'll post them up.


Any luck finding the pics? :turned:
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Posted 30 March 2010 - 05:48 PM

No luck with the photos. I will have to dig out the hard copies and re-scan them.
I did however find the actual piece I cut out to narrow the cradle.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 10:14 PM

No luck with the photos. I will have to dig out the hard copies and re-scan them.


Thanks. I know that's a hassle, and I appreciate it. :thumbsup:

I did however find the actual piece I cut out to narrow the cradle.


That's odd. :tongue:

At this point, one of the main things I'm curious about it how you modified the back side of the cradle (where it mounts near the fuel tank), and how the shocks are mounted.

I may not narrow mine quite as much as you did. Looking at using wheels that are 16x8 +33 (already have those), or getting something new in a 16x7 +40.
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Posted 15 June 2010 - 11:07 AM

Found some pics..... oh the memories
I've included a couple of the front end also.
I'll keep looking for some more detailed pics, but you can sort of see the 40mm square tube I slotted into the "C" section brace near the fuel tank

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 11:45 AM

Found some pics..... oh the memories


Thanks!!! :thumbsup:

And any more you dig up are greatly appreciated. :yes:
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Posted 26 June 2010 - 12:50 PM

:yes: hmmmmmm